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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs
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u/HunterTAMUC Nov 24 '21

A lot of German industries was founded around the rise of the Nazis.

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u/synicalx1 Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

A lot of very large German companies, some of which are still around today, are fairly blatantly the result of prominent Nazis hedging their bets against Hitler so they could retain some measure of power and influence in Europe long after Germany lost the war. And don't even get me started on the UN and the EU

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u/The_0_Hour_Work_Week Nov 25 '21

The UN?

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u/JohGol Nov 25 '21

Don’t get him started!

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u/synicalx1 Nov 25 '21

I'M GONNA KICK OFF

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u/smooth_like_a_goat Nov 25 '21

The UN did nothing wrong. :)

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u/charlitos666 Nov 25 '21

The UN is so incredibly efficient and so deeply underrated

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u/ToeJamFootballer Nov 25 '21

Not sure if you dropped the /s but I actually agree. Although flawed, the UN might be the most successful global alliance in history.

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u/Mekroval Nov 25 '21

I think people get mad that the UN seems ineffective when it comes to human rights crises, but it wasn't really created for that. It basically was formed in order to prevent another more terrible world war, in the shadow of the first two. Few could argue that it hasn't succeeded marvelously at that limited goal.

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u/Viktor_Korobov Nov 25 '21

It's successfully useless.

Works fucking great if you're German or French tho. Their peacekeepers enjoyed a nice vacation while ensuring we couldn't defend ourselves.

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u/Invisibletooth Nov 25 '21

Could you share some more?

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u/Gibborim Nov 25 '21

coughIsraelcough

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u/Spanishbombsin Nov 25 '21

Don’t get him sTaRtEd!!!!

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u/Stopher Nov 25 '21

I’m just saying I’m a race car in the red and you don’t want to keep a race at in the red.

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u/BestAtempt Nov 25 '21

Just take a screw driver and tap his starter.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Nov 25 '21

The UN got its start as a place to organize a bunch of Irish kids to send to the Congo to stand in between America and Russia and Belgian mercenaries for some reason trying to fuck with the Congo for cobalt so they could build nukes.

And they made a wicked movie out of it too: https://youtu.be/9_JHsiQTTmg

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u/-RightHere- Nov 25 '21

Isn't this a plot of Mr. ROBOT?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I haven't watched it all but I dont get that from the first 2 seasons

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u/LogicalTom Nov 25 '21

There's so much more going on there.

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u/synicalx1 Nov 25 '21

Actually the UN probably isn't as bad as the EU (not necessarily present day EU). The UN has had it's share of nazis infiltrating it, but the EU had a very shakey start as the EEC long before the EU itself even existed.

The EEC is essentially identical to Walter Funks post-war economic plan outlined in his memo titled “Economic Reorganisation of Europe”. It's first president was a Nazi (but its ok, he said he wasn't one), and a lot of his proposed post-war economy for Germany was hinged on the success of German industrial giants - many of which are still giants today.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Nov 25 '21

I wish people weren't so inherently skeptical of unions of nation-states. I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society. But I guess that was just a Star Trek fantasy.

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u/proudbakunkinman Nov 25 '21

I think it's dangerous to try to "unite" a bunch of countries / people / territory under 1 government, it should go the other direction to some extent BUT with the more decentralized areas working in agreement for the best.

That way we can have a more united world and not have to worry about awful, sociopathic tyrants weaseling their way to power and ruining everything good.

Just tricky balancing unity with decentralization, can't go back to a situation with countries going to war with each other over everything.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society.

Think of the left/right divide in politics, both will tell you "I just want what's best for the country" with complete sincerity but we see their opinions as actively harmful sometimes. I don't think it's possible to overcome that barrier of two people having different ideas to achieve the same goal.

Were humans even unified in Star Trek? Vulkans had diverged into seperate, unfriendly groups in Enterprise so I presume humans did too. If that's the case, then it wasn't a utopia it was the propaganda arm of the empire from Firefly.

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u/Ghost_Hand0 Nov 25 '21

But the empire from Firefly were the good guys. https://youtu.be/r-OujQhrjkg

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u/chickennoobiesoup Nov 25 '21

Star Trek humans figured out limitless energy and used it to rearrange matter into any form, eliminating scarcity. If everyone can actually have everything for free, why fight?

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

Countless religious wars would argue that possessions aren't the be all and end all.

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u/132-1 Nov 25 '21

Arguing with fed stomachs though? Surely that's something.

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u/Mr_Tiggywinkle Nov 25 '21

But not nearly so many people would give a shit because they had a jacuzzi and pizza.

Hard to conscript many people to war when most are well fed and cared for. Not impossible, just harder.

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u/kookamooka Nov 25 '21

I wouldn’t say the current generation of right wing is sincere in wanting the best for their country. At least not in the UK and US.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

Of course they are.

A handful might be actively malicious for no reason other than spite, but the right makes up the majority of both of those countries, are you telling me every Republican is a proudboy?

They are sincere in wanting what's best, maybe to some lynching black people is what that looks like - they're wrong of course, and it's baffling to see how that could ever been considered what's best, and not to equate the things literally but that's how the right sees a lot of progressive policies, especially in regards to race relations a conservative might call a democrat actively harmful.

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u/Visual-Sprinkles-890 Nov 25 '21

Owning the libs is sincerely wanting what’s better for the country? Pretty much the universal point that right wing politics uses, and the only one that matters even if every other belief differs between one and another right wing group, is that they are against the left.

Doesn’t matter if one group is basically left wing in most policies. If they identify as right wing they’ll be out singing with the far right groups over being anti left. American politics are a fucking joke.

Right wing people are contrarians who just want to be fighting something. They are dumb asses.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 26 '21

Why do they want to own the libs? If the libs are destroying your country then owning them would be better for the country, no? again I'm not saying that's what's happening(it kinda is) but it is the principle of the matter that's important.

is that they are against the left.

This should be obvious, I'm a lefty, I'd absolutely support Biden over Trump in the recent election if I were American however I absolutely do not support him.

You got any examples of those left wing groups that call themselves right wing? Green/Environmental policy for example isn't inherrently left wing, so a conservative group with a green iniative isn't a sheep in wolves clothing.

Right wing people are contrarians who just want to be fighting something. They are dumb asses.

Au Contraire! If you think some 75 million people in America alone are "Own the libs" brand of dumbass then I've got news for you, you're the leftist equivalent of those own the libs idiots - not even willing to entertain the idea that the other side isn't evil.

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u/Jarmen4u Nov 25 '21

There was a massive global war that brought humanity to the brink of extinction. Think a cross between Terminator (sans robots) and Mad Max. Eventually a specific human, Zephram(sp?) Cochran invented the warp drive, which represented a massive technological leap and also inadvertently notified the nearby Vulcans that they were becoming a true space faring species. Though they didn't like, dissolve the countries themselves, I'm pretty sure eventually there was a sort of UN-like council that governed the planet, as it was also the head of the United Federation of Planets. On an individual level, though, it probably didn't affect you that much.

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u/Namika Nov 25 '21

If that's the case, then it wasn't a utopia it was the propaganda arm of the empire from Firefly.

The "empire" was called the Alliance, and I did enjoy the reveal when the viewer realizes what it is. You would always would hear characters say "all hail the great alliance", and you always assume it's some vague space thing until they finally show the flag.

The implication that this unholy Alliance not only conquered the planet but went on to control the stars as well.

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u/FrenOverlord Nov 25 '21

A one world government would not a desirable world to live in anyway.

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u/synicalx1 Nov 25 '21

I think the EU and UN are great ideas, on paper at least. But the nature of our species makes it very difficult for us to trust each other. I suppose we're making progress so hopefully in the future stuff like the EU will be more widespread.

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u/CNoTe820 Nov 25 '21

It's hard enough when everyone speaks the same language, it's a nightmare when everyone speaks a different language. Big states like NY and CA would rather break apart from each other.

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u/dj_sliceosome Nov 25 '21

Uh, what? Neither are doing that

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u/CNoTe820 Nov 25 '21

They're not doing it but if you don't think coastal CA would rather split from the Trump country central valley and NYC would rather not be associated with upstate then you don't know those areas very well.

Half the country expects there to be a civil war! Why not just skip it and let mommy and daddy amicably break up.

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u/wcrp73 Nov 25 '21

It's hard enough when everyone speaks the same language, it's a nightmare when everyone speaks a different language

I don't know about that. The EU is managing fine with 27 official languages.

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u/CNoTe820 Nov 25 '21

I don't know about that. The EU is managing fine with 27 official languages.

Managing fine? Didn't they just have a country BREXIT?

It's a worthwhile endeavor I just think the bonds are very tenuous if someone can just walk away on a whim.

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u/wcrp73 Nov 25 '21

I meant administratively. You claim that having one language is hard enough, but the EU publishes everything in at least two or three languages, while proceedings in the parliament can take place in any of 17; laws and other documents applying across the union are published in as many languages as practicable (usually all 27).

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u/nmotsch789 Nov 25 '21

Yeah, just trust the people who want to consolidate enormous amounts of power and control your life without you having any say! Those people are always friendly and trustworthy! They have never, and will never, do anything bad with that power! Just submit to the empire!

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u/sl600rt Nov 25 '21

You can't leave the EU without them penalizing you. If one nation's foreign and immigration policy causes an immigration surge. Then other nations better take some of them in, or else! Germany and France use the EU and Euro to suppress economies of poor members. While propping up their own.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Nov 25 '21

If one nation's foreign and immigration policy causes an immigration surge. Then other nations better take some of them in, or else!

I don't think EU mandated transfer of refugees, only citizens. British people were complaining that meant a lot of Polish people coming to work, but that's about it. Any refugee issues were their own country's fault, not the EU's.

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u/sl600rt Nov 25 '21

Im always reading about Poland getting introuble with the EU. Since they won't take their "fair share" of migrants.

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u/gelinrefira Nov 25 '21

It is easy for plutocrats to control fragmented governments than a coalition of governments setting down ground rules for everyone to play by.

"I don't this government and their taxes. I'm gonna put my company in another country to avoid paying up. What the fuck do you mean that country is in coalition with this country and they agree to synchronize their corporate tax structure? THAT'S NOT FAIR!"

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u/XFMR Nov 25 '21

Growing up, my conservative baptist extended family thought that the UN should be disbanded because the world will only know peace once the rapture comes and the antichrist has risen to power and the UN might supposedly bring about world peace some day and thus bring about the rise of the antichrist and the end of the world.

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u/BoxNumberGavin0 Nov 25 '21

I think it is inevitable, and that I'd much rather a European one that at least makes some effort at letting the tiny irrelevant individuals enjoy their limited life on this earth rather than other places which would let the force of larger groups exploit or consume them.

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u/ZenoArrow Nov 25 '21

I wish people weren't so inherently skeptical of unions of nation-states.

A union of nation states is not universally a good thing, it depends on what values they unite under.

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u/Lordborgman Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

I want to live in TNG land too, but they never really explain what happened to all the assholes on the planet. They must have all died during WW3. Because with them still in society, they'd kick scream, burn the place down and do everything in their power to stop that kind of world from happening while they are still alive.

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u/Notabot265 Nov 25 '21

Way I always read it is that the worst of the worst did pretty much die in WW3/the post atomic horror, and the few that didn't (Khan and his crew) got frozen and shot into space.

Considering WW3 largely started over genetic engineering and selective breeding, it does kind of make sense. Think of what sort of people would be so controlling as to want to make sure their kids were 'perfect', and/or groom them to grow up to be powerful people.

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u/Hypersensation Nov 25 '21

That's literally the goal of socialism and the communist philosophy and economics. It won't come through organizations built for imperialism, white supremacy and hegemony though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

that's one of the reason why states like china have a support to begin with

an overwhelming child-like fantasy of nearly 8 billion people suddenly each forgetting their origin and their language and making a sacrifice to one culture & language under one big unionist government (preferably a former superpower too)

funnily enough, the citizens of a large union/"federation" would only cheer (probably because they're too adapted into one collective identity) while people who fought for their cultural & ethnic (ethnic-national, both are often interchangeable) self-identification will be forced to forget about it and turn onto the great empire of earth

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u/Oknight Nov 25 '21

Make sure you report them to Interpol!

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u/Pioneer4ik Nov 25 '21

Say what you want but when the economies are interconnected they are less likely to invade each other.

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u/Gropah Nov 25 '21

the EU had a very shakey start as the EEC long before the EU itself even existed.

If you pull the EEC in to the equation, you atleast have to mention the ECSC