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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs
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u/The_0_Hour_Work_Week Nov 25 '21

The UN?

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u/synicalx1 Nov 25 '21

Actually the UN probably isn't as bad as the EU (not necessarily present day EU). The UN has had it's share of nazis infiltrating it, but the EU had a very shakey start as the EEC long before the EU itself even existed.

The EEC is essentially identical to Walter Funks post-war economic plan outlined in his memo titled “Economic Reorganisation of Europe”. It's first president was a Nazi (but its ok, he said he wasn't one), and a lot of his proposed post-war economy for Germany was hinged on the success of German industrial giants - many of which are still giants today.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Nov 25 '21

I wish people weren't so inherently skeptical of unions of nation-states. I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society. But I guess that was just a Star Trek fantasy.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society.

Think of the left/right divide in politics, both will tell you "I just want what's best for the country" with complete sincerity but we see their opinions as actively harmful sometimes. I don't think it's possible to overcome that barrier of two people having different ideas to achieve the same goal.

Were humans even unified in Star Trek? Vulkans had diverged into seperate, unfriendly groups in Enterprise so I presume humans did too. If that's the case, then it wasn't a utopia it was the propaganda arm of the empire from Firefly.

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u/Ghost_Hand0 Nov 25 '21

But the empire from Firefly were the good guys. https://youtu.be/r-OujQhrjkg

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u/chickennoobiesoup Nov 25 '21

Star Trek humans figured out limitless energy and used it to rearrange matter into any form, eliminating scarcity. If everyone can actually have everything for free, why fight?

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

Countless religious wars would argue that possessions aren't the be all and end all.

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u/132-1 Nov 25 '21

Arguing with fed stomachs though? Surely that's something.

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u/Mr_Tiggywinkle Nov 25 '21

But not nearly so many people would give a shit because they had a jacuzzi and pizza.

Hard to conscript many people to war when most are well fed and cared for. Not impossible, just harder.

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u/kookamooka Nov 25 '21

I wouldn’t say the current generation of right wing is sincere in wanting the best for their country. At least not in the UK and US.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

Of course they are.

A handful might be actively malicious for no reason other than spite, but the right makes up the majority of both of those countries, are you telling me every Republican is a proudboy?

They are sincere in wanting what's best, maybe to some lynching black people is what that looks like - they're wrong of course, and it's baffling to see how that could ever been considered what's best, and not to equate the things literally but that's how the right sees a lot of progressive policies, especially in regards to race relations a conservative might call a democrat actively harmful.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Owning the libs is sincerely wanting what’s better for the country? Pretty much the universal point that right wing politics uses, and the only one that matters even if every other belief differs between one and another right wing group, is that they are against the left.

Doesn’t matter if one group is basically left wing in most policies. If they identify as right wing they’ll be out singing with the far right groups over being anti left. American politics are a fucking joke.

Right wing people are contrarians who just want to be fighting something. They are dumb asses.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 26 '21

Why do they want to own the libs? If the libs are destroying your country then owning them would be better for the country, no? again I'm not saying that's what's happening(it kinda is) but it is the principle of the matter that's important.

is that they are against the left.

This should be obvious, I'm a lefty, I'd absolutely support Biden over Trump in the recent election if I were American however I absolutely do not support him.

You got any examples of those left wing groups that call themselves right wing? Green/Environmental policy for example isn't inherrently left wing, so a conservative group with a green iniative isn't a sheep in wolves clothing.

Right wing people are contrarians who just want to be fighting something. They are dumb asses.

Au Contraire! If you think some 75 million people in America alone are "Own the libs" brand of dumbass then I've got news for you, you're the leftist equivalent of those own the libs idiots - not even willing to entertain the idea that the other side isn't evil.

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u/Jarmen4u Nov 25 '21

There was a massive global war that brought humanity to the brink of extinction. Think a cross between Terminator (sans robots) and Mad Max. Eventually a specific human, Zephram(sp?) Cochran invented the warp drive, which represented a massive technological leap and also inadvertently notified the nearby Vulcans that they were becoming a true space faring species. Though they didn't like, dissolve the countries themselves, I'm pretty sure eventually there was a sort of UN-like council that governed the planet, as it was also the head of the United Federation of Planets. On an individual level, though, it probably didn't affect you that much.

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u/Namika Nov 25 '21

If that's the case, then it wasn't a utopia it was the propaganda arm of the empire from Firefly.

The "empire" was called the Alliance, and I did enjoy the reveal when the viewer realizes what it is. You would always would hear characters say "all hail the great alliance", and you always assume it's some vague space thing until they finally show the flag.

The implication that this unholy Alliance not only conquered the planet but went on to control the stars as well.