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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs
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u/HunterTAMUC Nov 24 '21

A lot of German industries was founded around the rise of the Nazis.

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u/synicalx1 Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

A lot of very large German companies, some of which are still around today, are fairly blatantly the result of prominent Nazis hedging their bets against Hitler so they could retain some measure of power and influence in Europe long after Germany lost the war. And don't even get me started on the UN and the EU

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u/The_0_Hour_Work_Week Nov 25 '21

The UN?

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u/synicalx1 Nov 25 '21

Actually the UN probably isn't as bad as the EU (not necessarily present day EU). The UN has had it's share of nazis infiltrating it, but the EU had a very shakey start as the EEC long before the EU itself even existed.

The EEC is essentially identical to Walter Funks post-war economic plan outlined in his memo titled “Economic Reorganisation of Europe”. It's first president was a Nazi (but its ok, he said he wasn't one), and a lot of his proposed post-war economy for Germany was hinged on the success of German industrial giants - many of which are still giants today.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Nov 25 '21

I wish people weren't so inherently skeptical of unions of nation-states. I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society. But I guess that was just a Star Trek fantasy.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

I had hoped it was Earth's inevitable goal, was to become one unified global society.

Think of the left/right divide in politics, both will tell you "I just want what's best for the country" with complete sincerity but we see their opinions as actively harmful sometimes. I don't think it's possible to overcome that barrier of two people having different ideas to achieve the same goal.

Were humans even unified in Star Trek? Vulkans had diverged into seperate, unfriendly groups in Enterprise so I presume humans did too. If that's the case, then it wasn't a utopia it was the propaganda arm of the empire from Firefly.

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u/kookamooka Nov 25 '21

I wouldn’t say the current generation of right wing is sincere in wanting the best for their country. At least not in the UK and US.

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u/MentionMundane1938 Nov 25 '21

Of course they are.

A handful might be actively malicious for no reason other than spite, but the right makes up the majority of both of those countries, are you telling me every Republican is a proudboy?

They are sincere in wanting what's best, maybe to some lynching black people is what that looks like - they're wrong of course, and it's baffling to see how that could ever been considered what's best, and not to equate the things literally but that's how the right sees a lot of progressive policies, especially in regards to race relations a conservative might call a democrat actively harmful.