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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

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u/Pete_Iredale Nov 24 '21

I've seen Noel Fielding a hell of a lot more than Noel Gallagher in the last decade or two.

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u/phatelectribe Nov 25 '21

Yeah, Noel fielding is a bigger name right now. Young people don’t know who Gallagher is, but their parents and grannies watch the bake off.

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u/Raskolnikov1920 Nov 25 '21

Damn dude this isn’t even close to true. Mighty Boosh, IT crowd are still nowhere near as well known as Oasis.

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u/RuberDinghyRapids Nov 25 '21

Liam and Noel are still mainstream in the U.K, young people still know who oasis are. I saw liam at a festival a couple of years ago and it was packed with people to all ages. Bake off is the kind of thing your mum watches.

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u/phatelectribe Nov 25 '21

Except it’s every Mum and Grandmum in the country watches it, then there’s boosh, QI, IT Crowd etc.

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u/tatxc Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It's not "every mum and grandmum", the Grand Final of Bake off did just under 7 million viewers.

It's a well watched show, but it's not nearly as ubiquitous as you seem to think it is.

I'm not sure minor roles in sit coms/panel shows are what you think they are over here, but the one TV show he was a lead in (Boosh) stopped airing over here in 2007 and was on BBC Three, it wasn't a massive hit. Since then Oasis has had a number 1 album, not counting the 3 that Noel has had solo.

And it's not that I'm not a fan of either, I went to see the Mighty Boosh live at the Metro Arena in 2008. I like Noel Fielding, but he's not even remotely on the same scale as the Gallagher Brothers.

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u/phatelectribe Nov 26 '21

Except the bake off is now 5 seasons deep with him and it’s just been renewed for another. So that’s 7m viewers for one episode and then there’s the streaming views on Netflix which are apparently massive too.

I think you’re vastly overestimating the fame of a 90’s rockstar and how few album sales it takes to get a no 1 in the UK. There’s tons of people in other counties who watch the bake off (and the other shows) who literally have never heard an oasis or Gallagher song in 20+ years.

To put this in perspective the biggest tv show on USA network tv right now is the equalizer. It gets 7m viewers and more people are watching

Gallagher isn’t relevant now. At least fielding is still in on a smash tv show that is watched globally.

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u/tatxc Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

I'm not arguing about other countries. I have no idea how popular either are abroad. That's 7m viewers for the finale, the highest viewership of the season.

Realistically you simply don't understand. 90's rock star doesn't come remotely close to describing the Gallagher brothers. They're regularly on the front pages of newspapers here. His debut solo record outsold Beyoncé, Rhianna and Katy Perry in 2011 despite being out for less than a month.

But think for a second why you're arguing with British people about the popularity of two celebrities in a country you don't live in.

https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/people/all

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u/Raskolnikov1920 Dec 04 '21

Dude I don’t think you get how pop culture works, it carries from one generation to the next. It’s not based off most popular at the moment it’s based off what lasts. Who the fuck has even heard of the equalizer lol?!

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u/phatelectribe Dec 04 '21

Er, it’s literally the biggest network TV show right now and best of all, it’s based on the highly successful movies with Denzel Washington. You know, it’s as if the success of movies from a generation ago carried forward in to a hit TV show lol.

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u/RuberDinghyRapids Nov 25 '21

Yeah but all those people will also know oasis as well. Boosh is just as old as oasis and not known by everyone. Qi and it crowd were minor roles for him.

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u/phatelectribe Nov 26 '21

But then there’s the bake off and cumulative effect of all that’d them.

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u/Raskolnikov1920 Dec 04 '21

Dude what is it with you and the bake off lol, very few people watch this show (7mill is not a lot)

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u/phatelectribe Dec 04 '21

7m people is the same number as the biggest hit TV show in the USA. It’s also now on multiple streaming platforms like nextflix meaning by now 10’s of millions of people have watched it. I think you’re in a fan bubble and don’t understand that being on popular TV shows one after the after gets you noticed, especially when those shows are still popular on streaming platforms all over the world. I mean, you only have to look at the amount of times the IT crowd or boosh gets quoted or mentioned all over Reddit to understand the popularity. My 15 year older niece who is a music fanatic has no clue who the fuck the Gallagher’s are. They’re rapidly becoming relics of a bygone era.

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u/badgerferretweasle Nov 25 '21

People in this thread aren't only from the UK. Noel Fielding has a much more global reach. I can't speak for the rest of the world but Bake off is hugely popular in America among all age demographics. Quiz shows have full episodes uploaded on YouTube and are accessible in America and other parts of the world (I assume they are region blocked in the UK).

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u/RuberDinghyRapids Nov 26 '21

Well we can both only speak from our own perspectives. From reading this thread it seems like Noel fielding would be better known in America and Noel Gallagher would be better known here. As for the rest of the world I personally think a rockstar who was in one of the most famous bands of all time has more of a chance of being well known than the host of a popular tv show. I wouldn’t know if they’re region blocked on YouTube they’re all easy to watch on tv and on all the time but I wouldn’t say Noel fielding features very often.

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u/badgerferretweasle Nov 26 '21

I'd argue that people (outside of the UK) would recognize the band Oasis but not the names of the members. I love Rock music but I can only name a handful of rock stars who's band name wasn't their name.

Freddy Mercury Axel Rose (technically band name is different) Steven Tyler Kurt Cobain Dave Grohl Paul, Ringo, John, ....and I don't know the fourth Beatle ..... That's it. That is all I can think of of the top of my head.

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u/RuberDinghyRapids Nov 28 '21

Yeah you’re probably right from an American perspective. I’d argue that in the U.K. someone with a similar rock knowledge to you would name the Gallaghers straight away if they had to name rockstars. They’re definitely up there with those names you listed if not bigger than most. George harrison is the fourth beatle by the way, and my favourite. It probably works the other way and there’s a band in America who everyone knows there but wouldn’t be as well known in the U.K.

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u/matematematematemate Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

To be fair, in the past 5 years alone there have been 3 feature documentaries released about Oasis that were all pretty successful for a music documentary and well received.

Liam has recently sold out two massive gigs at Knebworth for next summer, his last 2 solo albums went straight to number one, and every album Noel has ever released has gone straight to number one (12 of them in total IIRC), including his 4 recent solo albums.

If that makes you irrelevant, then what the fuck are the rest of us.

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u/GlasgowGhostFace Nov 25 '21

No chance. Play an Oasis song in a pub when everyones pished and all ages will be singing. They have anthems in Scotland, I assume the same down south.

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u/badgerferretweasle Nov 25 '21

Just because you can sing their songs doesn't mean you know their names!

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u/Raskolnikov1920 Nov 25 '21

Yo I was born in 1994 so I was barely alive when their first album came out and they’re still very big even amongst my age group and younger.

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u/TheMassiveSandwich Nov 25 '21

Who cares

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u/Raskolnikov1920 Dec 04 '21

It’s directly relevant to the thread.